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tulsa race massacre and the u.s. supreme court enters its final weeks of the session amid key cases, with retirement rumors. fox primetime is up next. have a great night. good evening and welcome to tucker carlson tonight. this is a special edition of the show. so much has change in the united states in the past year that it's hard to keep track of it all. public health experts have been exposed as frauds, as incompetent and dishonest. our schools are openly teaching racism to our children. our military at times does not seem interested in protecting the country. these are big changes with real
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ramifications. most news channels don't want to cover the real stories. they occupy themselves with frivolity. but we do want to cover them, we think it's our duty. it's hard to give each one of these topics the time and depth they deserve. that's why we announced our new streaming show, tucker carlson today. most of these interviews last around an hour. tonight we'll feature some of our best conversations. we want to begin with a portion of our first ever episode featuring douglas murray, one of the rare free thinking intellectuals left. here's part of the conversation that we had about how the united states appears to be losing its moral compass. >> there is nothing left by war, hatred, oppression, bigotry and much more. i think that anyone, black, white, any other color, should
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say, no, we're not doing that. we're sitting this one out. in fact, we're to do more than sit this one out. we're going to fight back. we're not going to play that game. we know where it leads even if you don't. i very much hope people realize what these so-called anti-racists are doing. the walls that they are building. the divisions that they are embedding and forcing on a new generation of americans. and i hope that more and more americans just step away from that. opt out of it, and call it out. how do you do that? everyone can do it in their own lives. my experience is that people shouldn't expect the calvary to come. to save them. i think the discovery of middle age, apart from anything else, is that the calvary is you. >> the calvary is you?
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>> that's true. >> at first it's a hilarious thought. second, it's a slightly depressing thought. thirdly, it's a worrying thought. but nevertheless it's the case. you are the people who get -- no one else does it for you. >> tucker: in practical terms that would mean if you have children in school whose curriculum has changed dramatically since the death of george floyd and you find your kids being subjected to this you stand up and say no? >> and also have confidence, intellectual and moral confidence to say no. the death of george floyd doesn't demand a rewrite of american history. it doesn't demand that it should be a rewrite of american education. it does not make america the country which its detractors, principally within america, now
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pretend it is. they have no right to do this. they have no right to make americans rewrite their own history or lie about their history. they have no right to make americans feel disdain for their ancestors. they have no right to do all of these things and i think the american public and everyone in their individual way can say no. i know something that we all knew until yesterday and i will not be made to forget it. that can be rejecting racism even when it comes under the guise of anti-racism. or it can come in just saying no when it comes into your own life. when stupid, stupid people tell everyone else to educate themselves. when the least educated people in your society lecture the most and tell you to be smarter, have some confidence. say no, i'm not listening to this. i don't need to. i don't need to be talked down to in these terms. i'm not a bad person.
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i'm not a bad person because of my skin color and i don't think anyone else is either. people need to have a bit more confidence in america. where did it go? when did you lose it? >> tucker: i think this every day. what do you think the answer is? >> i think america, for a generation or more, has had an elite that doesn't like the country. doesn't feel that you're very good. that's not unusual. i'm from a continent where there has been an awful lot of people who have taken that view. it's very hard for a society to do well if most of the people in a position of power and authority basically distrust the public but the saving grace of it is the public. is the people who hold on to truths that their elite disdain. who remember things that people in power have forgotten.
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who hold on to truths. that has seen this country through in the past. i think it can see it through again. you need not to be bullied. you need not to be bullied by people who pretend to know more and who almost never do. not be led by people who say, well, i've got an m.a. in gender theory so i know about this. have the confidence to say in all due respect i don't think that means anything. >> tucker: the biggest vaccination campaign in history is under way. the u.s. military is involved. everybody needs to get the shot. that's what you've heard. there is enormous pressure on all americans to get it. even people who have recovered from covid and have active antibodies. we've never done that before with a vaccine. is it safe? a doctor is a long time physician and he's very concerned about this policy. he told us it's important to
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screen before vaccine. here is some of that conversation. >> so i think it's going to be a logical and natural approach to use both natural -- in other words, if somebody is naturally immune there is no reason to revaccinate them and those persons would get an unnecessary medical procedure. >> tucker: wait a second. so many millions, we don't know the number, we know it's enormous, we all have relatives, i have a number of relatives who have been infected and recovered and seem fine, you're saying those people, millions of americans, who have had covid and recovered shouldn't get the vaccine? >> i don't want to go against the public health narrative. this is a contentious issue and i don't want to undermine the public health leaders but i would say the vast majority of people are naturally immune,
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will have quite robust immunity. in fact, normally, as you know, in other examples, for example, the case of chicken pox, for example, that's one perfect example. when you become immune naturally, you're quite robustly immune, there is no need to go back and revaccinate you. certainly if you have igg antibodies, that's the definition of immunity. the standard definition is igg antibodies in your blood so if you go, let's say, to occupational health because you have a new job, right, and they want to know what your vaccine status is, they draw some blood, send off the tighters and if your igg comes up positive, you're immune. i don't know why we're suspending this. >> tucker: wait. so why, i mean, that's kind of the question. why -- since we have by definition a limited number of vaccines, we're prioritizing on the basis of all kinds of criteria. why wouldn't we say, first, we're going to screen for everyone who is already immune because of previous infection,
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and, you know, maybe they are not in front of the line. why wouldn't we do that? >> that's a very good question. i think, i would like to think that that has to do with public health officials sort of being in a panic mode. i don't want to invoke any sort of conspiracy theory but i would like to think that maybe they are in panic mode and they just want to vaccinate everybody. that there is nothing nefarious going on behind the scene. >> tucker: sorry, i majored in russian history. i know nothing about science. it's a very obvious question to me and has been for weeks, months, you don't think it's occurred to them? >> well, it certainly occurred to them based on the letters i've generated to them so i certainly think dr. woodcock and dr. marks and even dr. fauci is aware of the fact that we're literally deploying a vaccine en mass in the middle of an outbreak. i want to make sure your audience understands this. we're in the middle of an outbreak where millions of
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americans, as you said, are naturally infected, or naturally immune, deploying a vaccine that essentially reactivates the immune response. the question is, number one is that a necessary medical treatment? number two is that a dangerous medical approach? >> tucker: a lot of powerful people would like for marjorie taylor green to be quiet. we have her exchange for about an hour, an amazing conversation that's next, we also spoke to someone else we didn't expect to be talking to who had a lot to say. actress christie ali, straight ahead. ahead. ahead. ♪ ♪
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♪ ♪ >> tucker: marjori >> tucker: marjorie taylor green is so reviled on the left it's easy to forget she's a sitting member of congress representing georgia's 14th congressional district. you've probably heard a lot about taylor green, all have but very few of us have heard from marjorie taylor green. we wanted to correct that. here's part of our conversation. she told us, for example, about
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her recent exchange with sandy cortes, her colleague on capitol hill. >> have you talked to any democrats since you've been there? >> i talked to aoc. i challenged her to debate me on the green new deal. >> tucker: what was she like? >> first-off, she was completely, i don't know what her emotion was, but she was kind of like a high school student. have you even read it? i said, well, yeah, i've read most of it. she's like, how can you even ask me to debate the green new deal if you haven't even read it? she's very, you know -- hand gesture. i said, all right, i'll read it and we'll debate it. here's the issue. i'm a business owner. i've signed paychecks. created jobs, i built another company that was a gym and i
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know what that's like to build the economy and create jobs. your green new deal is the complete opposite and you don't understand at all because you've never owned a business. as a matter of fact, you've never had long term employment anywhere and therefore your green new deal is going to destroy our economy and jobs and i would like for us to debate this and how it will affect our country and the future of our economy, and she was like, just very offended. just completely offended. >> tucker: really? >> oh, yes. yes. childish. childish. >> tucker: were you standing in the house? >> yes, in front of the speaker's desk. >> tucker: she sighs a lot it sounds like? >> she remind me of my two daughters. actually, i think they -- i think she's very triggered at the fact that i walked right up to her and asked her to debate me because midwest of the time
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republicans and democrats don't even talk to each other in there. >> tucker: we've got more of the conversation with marjorie taylor green coming up. you'll hear her describe what her life is like. what it's like to be marjorie taylor green and be happy despite the attacks. interesting. and then we had a long and unpredictable and pretty amazing conversation with kirstie alley who has been in hollywood for 40 years. here's part of it? >> if you can't be happy without drugs. it started making me crazy. the glimpse of what real insanity is, not playing around, i wasn't playing anymore. i couldn't control feeling kind of insane. and i started getting really, really introverted. it went back in on me, i thought, i knew, i thought, look at what you've done to yourself. nobody else can did. you did this to yourself. then i had hope. i said, if you did it, you can undo it so at least i had hope.
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those weren't pharmaceutical drugs. at least people would say, yes, die a lot of -- maybe you want to stop that. yes, i do, you know, i do -- i'm on six psych drugs. that sounds good. they don't go like, what? how can you be on six mind altering drugs? and then instead of being depressed, why can't someone be depressed, because things have happened to them. because they have losses. people have died in their life. they have been molested. they have had things. why can't someone guide them to look at what happened to them because it's real. it's not -- you don't have to be mentally ill, you know, and i always say this. which psychotropic drug do you have a deficiency of? you won't be able to make decisions or look at something
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and i just feel sorry for people because they will go, well, i'm a scientologist. oh, you don't believe in -- it doesn't have 234ig to do with believing in it. if you are a depressed, find out y. i feel lucky i'm a scientologist, because in scientologist, that's part of it and what do you is you find out why you're screwed up and you find out why are you depressed. there is a reason why people are depressed. >> tucker: you go to a psychiatrist, don't you, isn't that the law? >> the reason i don't go to psychiatrist, in their bag are the drugs. that's the main way they treat people. i just want somebody to go, what's going on and you say blah-blah, it will trail to something that was really, you know, earlier and earlier, that was really damaging to you. and then, when you can confront that thing, part in of it goes away and you're like, oh, i get it. it's not a mystery anymore.
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i get why i'm depressed. >> tucker: so self-knowledge might be more effective than benzos? >> the reason it's real to me is because what it's happened in my own life. >> trying to ban the ar-15. not surprisingly it's the most popular rifle in america. what is it exactly? we dyed to take a deep and honest look at the ar-15 that's interesting, straight ahead. . interesting. that is straight ahead. ♪ ♪ drop it. drop it. >> i cannot believe i'm shooting
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ground. a manhunt continues for three mask gunman who opened fire outside a miami banquet hall early sunday. the attack killed two men and injured 21 others. police have released surveillance video showing three people getting out of the vehicle. one of the suspects appears to be holding a handgun while the other two carry what police describe as an assault-style rifle. i'm jackie ibanez, now back to tucker carlson. for all the headlines you can log on to foxnews.com. you're watching the most powerful name in news, fox news. >> tucker: we've got a new documentary series that we're proud of called "talker carlson originals" on fox nation. here's a clip from our third episode about the ar-15. the most popular rifle in america. what's the truth about the ar-15? to get that we interviewed one and only hickock 45 of youtube
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feign. >> when you hear people talk about gun control they are probably talking about the ar-15. >> we're going to take your ar-15 >> tucker: it's the most popular rifle in america. it's the number one target of anti-gun activists. what is the ar-15? how does it work and why do people buy it? >> we began our investigation with one of the most popular youtube enthusiasts. >> your brass just hit me in the chest. >> here you go, it's on safe. >> fantastic. >> it's just funny to have a rifle, a selector -- not just a semi, but --
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>> go ahead. >> just avoid the steel. >> i'll definitely avoid the steel. >> tucker: if you've ever searched for information on firearms, you've come across this man. he's in our documentary and we're very happy to have him here on the red carpet in los angeles. so you follow the news. you're not political. especially in your youtube explanations and demonstrations about firearms but when you hear the ar-15 referred to consistently by the president and all down the line as a weapon of war, what's your response to that? >> well, it's pretty silly. i bought one in 1984, before a lot of the viewers were probably even born. it's really not gone to war yet. it's just a modern sporting rifle that i enjoy, and i don't really hunt myself but a lot of people hunt with them. they are just a wonderful rifle, for home defense.
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lightweight. effective. and, you know, adjustable stocks, most of them. just a very versatile firearm, i think the most popular rifle in the country right now. for sporting purposes, you know. >> tucker: in rural america specifically, i mean, any -- zip code has a ton of ar-15's, and in places with very low crime rates you tend to find a lot of them. >> exactly. as we know, the crime committed with rifles is extremely low. of any kind. knives and fists and everything surpasses that. a lot of this silliness about rifles is just fiction. just fiction in general. >> tucker: it must drive you crazy as someone who is an actual expert on the subject, you take apart a firearm, you know a lot about gunsmithing and guns. it must drive you craze to hear people who know nothing about guns weigh in with this moral
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aggression? >> to some extent i've been hearing it for decades. you get used to it. the difficulty now is, they are so adamant, and maybe have more power than in recent years. yes, it's mostly silly and it people ignoring -- i think a lot of them don't care about the statistics. they really don't, as you know. it's frustrating at times, but most of us go on and enjoy the fire arms. we buy them for home defense. competition. hunting, and whatever we choose to do. and we support the second amendment gun rights groups and go on about our business. >> tucker: ar-15, i just need your perspective as an example of american manufacturing and innovation, kind of an impressive machine, isn't it? >> it really is. so many impressive things about it is the fact that it's so reliable. i've gone through different firearms in my life. the ar is always interesting.
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even with a cheap magazine i've always been intrigued by the fact you can go to an army surplus store, you can pick up some old mags and they will work a hundred percent reliably. it's inherently reliable, and light recoiling. it's a very popular among people, i have to be careful what i say, small stature. young people. just anybody that maybe doesn't want a lot of recoil. and it's just, a lot of fun to shoot. it's why it's so popular. >> tucker: it works. that's why people like it. a voice of sanity and deep knowledge. >> don't go that far. >> tucker: not enough of those. thank you. >> tucker: joe biden, who has no idea what side of the rifle the bullet comes out is calling now for a total ban on the ar-15. he calls ate weapon of war and an assault rifle. we asked around. one second amendment advocate joined us on "tucker carlson today" to explain that he's not
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going to apply with that ban. >> tell us about your hat. >> it says i will not comply. >> think about it. are we expected to comply with unconstitutional laws in this country? we're not. and so, what this is a reference to is specifically the idea of an assault weapon ban. we've already had the supreme court say that we do have a right to own firearms in this country, and the ar-15 the one of those. one of the midwest popular rifles in the country. nits common use so as a result of that, if you're going to pass an assault weapons ban which is in direct contrast to what the second amendment says what our supreme court has said, i'm not going to comply with unconstitutional laws. i'm just not going to do that especially when it comes to utilizing the one gun that i think is in the best position to protect myself. now, you and i can debate back and forth about whether it's an ar, a shotgun and so forth and so on but it is in the same vein as a shotgun, as other firearms and other rifles as well, so why are we trying to regulate me to something, what i consider to be
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less capable with protecting my life? >> tucker: government policy has caused a crime wave. we've always had crime, you know, there are always people who are going to act out in violence for whatever reason but this last year you've soon violent crime go way up and it's bus of specific steps that leaders have taken. they have caused the crime and then they flipped it around and said, look at all the crime, we need to take away your guns but we're not going to take away the guns that are causing the crime, the ar-15. >> that's what i call a slow drip. the ultimate goal, i don't think i know. the ultimate goal is to ban. they want to ban all the guns and it sounds super extreme but if you think about it logically, we're talking about ar-15's, which account for less than 1% of the gun deaths in this country, if the idea is to save lives why are we not focusing on
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the guns that are responsible for saving lives. if your ultimate goal is to save lives, you think it's a particular gun that's doing it, that's causing -- that means your ultimate goal is to ban guns. >> tucker: well, yes. >> all of them. >> tucker: you're motivated -- i mean, let me just ask you, is there evidence that seizing guns from law-abiding people would lower the rate of violence? would save lives? >> it wouldn't. >> i mean, think about it. you know, i've actually asked this question to people on the show. i used to have before, which i called the big red button question, i said if you made all the guns disappear, every single one of them, if you pushed the button, i with a say no. they look at me and say, why wouldn't you? because pushing a red button doesn't get rid of violence. it just gets rid of a tool that some people use to commit violence. >> tucker: have you noticed some
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of the most powerful people in the world claim they are the most depressed. you're not supposed to notice that it appears morgan noticed it. he said it out loud. he was fired for saying it. our conversation with pierce morgan straight ahead. he was fired for noticing it. our conversation with piers morgan straight ahead. ♪ ♪ hearing is important to living life to the fullest. that's why inside every miracle-ear store, you'll find better cheers with your favorite fans. you'll find a better life is in store at miracle-ear, when you experience
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♪ ♪ >> tucker: in an upcoming episode of tucker carlson we spoke at length with a human rights activist. she was an immigrant to europe and then to the united states. she's one of the very few honest voices on what unrestrained
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immigration means for europe and the united states. here's a preview of that episode. >> you grew up in very undemocratic countries. >> yes. >> you get elected in a democratic system, you don't just vote you get voted for. so you've seen from it both ends. what questions do you think your experience raises about democracy and long term prospects? >> it raises the separation -- the people who elect you and they say we elected you because you are voicing the issues of concern to us. >> yes. >> how our neighborhoods are affected, how our schools are affected. our how infrastructure are affected. we elected you to do that and then you go to the people within the political party and within the walls of parliament and they say shut up. they move further towards this.
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back then we had names for it. multiculturalism. today the word widely used is identity politics. the woke that's going around. identity politics, if you look on both sides of the atlantic, that would be what applies because there is the identity, the mexicans, the hispanic vote, the black vote, this vote, that vote, you have to pander to that. >> tucker: our interview with pierce morgan about megan markle, the fake duchess from l.a. made headlines around the world. that's because morgan was fired from saying something has that everybody knows is true. that's why they fire you, not when you lie, when you tell the truth. the most powerful peel in the world pretend to be the most oppressed and by pretending to be the oppressed they become more powerful. see how that works?
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here's a part of the conversation. >> she called the boss to silence you? >> you couldn't make this stuff up, frankly. the week before, harry had been going through beverly hills with his friend james corbin. it's the prince of -- he was talking about his private life and the lives of his family on a hollywood star bust. the lack of self-awareness of these two is frankly breath taking but this idea that meghan markle was silenced, she guest edited the "vogue" magazine. she made 73 public appearances, many which she spoke at during her period of silence. she claimed she had a passport taken away so she couldn't fly yet miraculously she took 14 flights some of them on elton
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john's private jet while she simultaneously with harry is lecturing us about the carbon footprint. there are so many whoppers in the interview that frankly in the end, saying i would believe her would be like saying i would believe pinocchio. why would i? >> tucker: i'm just concerned. i just want meghan markle to have a voice and it doesn't sound like she has one. make sir elton can help. >> the focus of the royal family, what's happening to you is a much bigger story than anything they are doing but i just have to ask you this because i can't resist. what's her future exactly? she's clearly such a transparent operator, obviously, i mean, the end game isn't to live with him for the rest of her life, could it be? >> well, she has a track record of ditching everyone and everything when she cease to be of use to her. my advice to harry is, make
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sure -- she has a royal title and she's been ruthlessly exploiting that tight to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars. good luck if she gets away with it but americans should be on to this by now. it's like, how much money would they be making if they weren't the duke and duchess of suffolk? >> would they be getting the oprah winfrey wine slot if they weren't royal? of course they wouldn't. if they weren't royal, would they be on corbin? their entire existence is being financed by their royal connection, same royal connection which they spent nearly two hours lambasting on global television, saying how much they hate it. it's not just inconsistent, it's not just hypocritical. it's actually shameful. so again, completely possible countricy. invading other people's privacy whenever it suits them but all
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to keep the pot boiling and making themselves talked about, which ultimately is their only currency. they are not making all of this money through talent. meghan was an okay actress. not many people watched it. it was a reasonably okay semi hit show for a few years. what has prince harry done? i tell you what he did do which won him the great respect of britain is he went to war. this guy went to war, and, my brother-in-law, my sister's husband, taught harry at the military academy and said he was a fine young soldier and a very courageous man. what's happened to that guy? what's happened to that guy? that he's turned into this whiney brat, in his mid-30s complaining his dad isn't still financing everything that he does? cut off by daddy and his millions. actually that wasn't true
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either. it turns out prince charles carried on financing him. remember, they inherited millions when their mother died. i knew princess di well, and i think she would be horrified by the schism in the royal family, by the appalling smear of the queen which is already causing damming to some of the commonwealth countries, buying into this outrageous lie that this queen is somehow racist and presiding over a racist institution. i predict we're going to be hearing a lot more from them and we're going to be hearing a lot more royal secrets because that's their currency and without that, they are just another couple of celebrities now. >> tucker: marjorie taylor green has only been in congress for a few months. she's the number one target of the media and both political parties. what is it like to be marjorie
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taylor green? we asked her straight ahead. ♪ ♪
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♪ ♪ >> tucker: so you show up in congress representing a congressional district of georgia and think you're going to do some letting and all of a sudden you back marjorie taylor green, one of the most infamous people in the world. every day she's attacked. she's crazy. we'll let you judge for yourself what marjorie taylor green is like but we wanted to ask you, how has your life changed in the face of all of this and she told us. >> tucker: women ask you, again, if you're viewers are interested they can look it up, i guess. >> sure. >> tucker: but how does it affect you, like everyone says, i don't care about media coverage, but do you care? does that wound you? does it affect your life when you go home at night? what do you think of that? >> well, it was shocking to me.
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so first-off, when all the news stories came out, it made me extremely angry. made my husband angry. my kids angry. this is their mom. everybody that knows me were very upset, this is not who you are, and then, so i went through weeks of all my personal friends and family sending me every single article they saw which was filling up like all of my text messages, guys, i'm trying not to look at this stuff. and y'all are sending it to you. they are so mad because they are like, i can't believe they are saying all of this and i'm going, hold on, i'm trying to block it all out. so yes. >> tucker: what did you say? i can relate to that. >> i bet you can. >> tucker: so were you able to block it out? >> yes. you want to know why. i know exactly who i am. and i'm very comfortable in my own skin, and if i had all of my friends and family and everyone
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that knows me on these news stories saying that garbage about me, then i think the country should be concerned. and then i think i would be hurt, right? but unever seen any of my friends, family or anybody that knows me, as a matter of fact, none of those people have gone on there and they wouldn't because they are disgusted at what the media say. >> tucker: that's wise advice. peek can say what they want, but as long as the people that love you -- here's another life lesson, this comes from an amazing conversation that we had with author j.d. vance and it comes from his grandmother. >> my grandmother did not have a high school degree, was not an educated woman but she was a smart woman and recognized the writing on the wall. if he's going to have a chance he has to get out. that was drilled in at an early age, this is not a community
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where you can build a long term life for yourself. tough to get out and that was depress nag lot of ways because it was our home and i loved it. but they were like, you've got to go and get an education, credentials, these are the things that are necessary to survive in 21st century america. i don't have them. unless you get them, you're going to suffer in the same ways that i have. so that's just always the plan. the family will have to depend on me. i'm going to be the guy who has an opportunity here so i've got to get my stuff together and try to do as well as i can so that was sort of the source, i guess, of my ambition is the recognition that if i didn't have it, you know, it wasn't like you could just sort of tread wall, right? it was either up or out, in a really impactful way. and so, i just knew that that had to happen so i worked really hard in college. i was a terrible high school student. nearly failed my freshman year of high school. terrible student but worked really hard in college and then things work out. you get the right test schools.
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>> tucker: there are a lot of law schools you could have gone to, could you have gone to wayne date in detroit but you went to the law school that sends -- puts more people on the supreme court than any other law school. >> yep. >> tucker: did you recognize at the time that that was going to catapult you into a completely different world? >> no, i had no idea what would eventually couple of it. obviously, a book, connections, i knew it would give me stability. i had friends from college. even from my hometown, who had gone on to do, you know, things, in the professional world, i sort of knew if you get into a really good law school you're set for life. that was kind of the way i thought about it. i'll be able to provide for my family. my kids won't have to worry about the things i worried about as a killed. i'll be able to support my wife and children. that's all that it meant to me. i didn't realize it would plug
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me into a totally different segment of society. my grandmother was optimistic about the american dream. we can do anything because we're americans and that's our birth right. i don't think that any of us were, any of us realized how genuinely different that part of society is, and so, no, i had no idea. i just wanted stability. that was my ticket, stability. i didn't realize it would basically put me into an entirely different social class. >> tucker: did you ever talk about social class? >> no, just there are opportunities out there, there are things you have to do. it was never about southeasterly class. it was always just, if you want to make it you've got to do xyz. she instinctively understood, that for whatever reason -- >> tucker: that's it. thanks for sticking with us. you can watch full episodes on foxnation.com.
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